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#171   01-06-2010, 01:12 PM
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Same with ap posture etc. Need to ask the ascended arden indeed, because it's really a major point of an Arden... We can survive thanks to the silence skill (in 1v1).

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#172   01-06-2010, 02:11 PM
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So far a majority of the ascended Ardens got plvl'd for both pre and post ascension so they have no clue about their abilities or skills, and no affinity skills either since they never had a chance to build up and get affinity beads to turn in from quests along the way.

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#173   01-06-2010, 02:40 PM
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if someone has made a level 150 already then they know what 4 yard/sec means, they know what 60% slow means, they know what "posture" is, they know what "bleed" is, and it's all self-explanatory. Getting a plvl passed something you've already done won't somehow mutilate the memory of having done it already.

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#174   01-06-2010, 06:15 PM
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Considering that each faction has their own skills, and some descriptions are bugged, and there is no way that someone could have gone through and actually tested/used every single skill in multiple 150 builds for a brand new faction... granted some comments/suggestions have been taken from a translated Chinese version where they have had the factions a little longer than we have but overall and especially from what I have seen (and read from the translated Chinese forums), Ardens even in T5 are the weakest faction in this game, no question.

**It is only when they battle against poorly built characters of other factions where they actually have a chance, otherwise Ardens don't have a chance, pre or post ascension.

They are in the game as a side/support role for battles but by themselves they are weak and rely on external summons just to come close to (but fail) at damage close to other factions.

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#175   01-06-2010, 07:30 PM
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Lol ? Get you balo to 150 and on wildlands so we can try that out.

Damn man, before saying something actually research it. Or well, just level and face 150 ardens, see them in fort and we'll see.

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#176   01-08-2010, 12:08 PM
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Lol ? Get you balo to 150 and on wildlands so we can try that out.

Damn man, before saying something actually research it. Or well, just level and face 150 ardens, see them in fort and we'll see.
lol Balo at 150 is almost unstoppable unless it is a bad build.
Even the best Arden build at any level can still be easily beat by any similar level player, even bad builds. This has been run down, tested extensively for many months on the Chinese version... kind of like a computer simulation type of setup but with Chinese people... and no matter what kind of build they make with an Arden, ALL (not just one or two, ALL) other factions can have even a junk build and still beat the Arden if they are both within a few lvls of each other. Even lv 150 Ardens were still easily beat by lv 130+ T4 Balos, Vims and Lupins.

This has been tested extensively and has been the conclusion since before the US version even got the expansion.
So no matter what fanboyish point of view you take, it is a preferrence and opinion, not cold hard fact. This has been tested and Arden is the weakest faction in this game.

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#177   01-08-2010, 01:03 PM
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Like I said, actually play an arden then come back please, this is getting me mad right now.

Beat by t4 ? Lol WDF I OSed a 136 balo just not long ago, and many times in a row. Can't say about 150 balo didn't saw in wildlands till now. W/o talking about skysongs, lupin and whatever. Just summon tiger and they run away like crazy. Use EL + cloud dweller and they drop dead except if immune. Btw, if you know that much tell me why I'm #1 killer in fort (on my side, thats still +120 kills, #3-4 total) when I'm in an ally at a great disadvantage with nearly only 150s + aoers in front of me ? (a real wall of 150s).

Please teach me, many things like how to play JD.


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Just a sidenote, I'm not saying arden is OP, just that an arden got enough to do whatever he/she wants, silence, sleep (and unavoidable except if immune) running speed totally insane and even more when you got the good charm, and a more than good DPS, which allows to OS anything with EL on, at least pre ascension idk what it is post ascension (yet). Don't come here with your balo and say arden is trash w/o having experiencing it for real, it's a special type of gaming, alright, ardens are glass canons anyway and you got to either pot really quickly or having good reflexes you won't win casting 2 skills to buff, go right in the middle of everything then kill everyone with 1 button, alright... but saying they are weaker than anything is just making me laugh and wanting to kick your ass badly for spreading wrong rumors everywhere. Ardens are just fine, don't try make other ardens follow your thought when they're wrong.

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#178   01-08-2010, 01:16 PM
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lol Balo at 150 is almost unstoppable unless it is a bad build.
Even the best Arden build at any level can still be easily beat by any similar level player, even bad builds. This has been run down, tested extensively for many months on the Chinese version... kind of like a computer simulation type of setup but with Chinese people... and no matter what kind of build they make with an Arden, ALL (not just one or two, ALL) other factions can have even a junk build and still beat the Arden if they are both within a few lvls of each other. Even lv 150 Ardens were still easily beat by lv 130+ T4 Balos, Vims and Lupins.

This has been tested extensively and has been the conclusion since before the US version even got the expansion.
So no matter what fanboyish point of view you take, it is a preferrence and opinion, not cold hard fact. This has been tested and Arden is the weakest faction in this game.


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#179   01-08-2010, 02:20 PM
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Eh =o If you Want my little bit of Information UPDATE!
Some of the skill in my Arden PVP Build Pre Ascend have changed but its pretty solid... I actually love to test and prove theorys and retest hence why I am becoming a Neurological chemist which requires extensive testing but enough about that..

I did do test on all the skill T1-T5 Than I rested one and went with a "Updated" build from what you see on my guide. And from my personal experience fighting with the best of the best that Billows Server has to offer the best pkers on pvp war/fort Arden will always be no matter what a One shot. If that arden can penetrate some one defense and the Arden is buffed up I have seen already 118+k dmg on Arden I know their destructive one-way wonder . But we are paper we will die afterwards unless you go back into safezone which wont work in Ancient Land soo good luck on that... As for balo if played right that really are almost unbeatable "ALMOST" note that I am saying this when I am an Arden so I am not taking favorites on my class same with what I picked Modo unless you understand and give other classes credit where they deserve you will never learn what is in your heart of hearts

But Yeah Balo - Definatly killing machine if played right even with defense mod they cannot be taken down with the right usage of MP pots...... the best PKer in Billows for Balo was Yuri we did extensive testing and she did her own testing and even ask everyone to try to one shot her NO ONE! Has yet been able to one shot her ........ because of her ability to convert dmg to both HP and MP. now drain her MP and balo still will be able to tank quite a bit in defense mode but at this time its an Arden that will and can one shot them easy.

Arden-
Highest DMG - Difference Compare to Lupin one hit crit wonder
Highest DPS in the game
Fastest Runner
The Best at PVE Leveling
Money Maker
Con -
Low HP even after ascend max ive seen in chinese server was 49k HP Arden. and a 87k one
Charging Time for Skill if you want to one shot can get you killed
Plants unable to move
Can easy be one shotted

Balo -
Ability to Defense and Attack change - Having 3rd Highest attack or Highest defense
High crit and crit rate
High DMG
Skill that make it extremely tank shield
skill that make it a super fighter
Con -
MP Usage can cost a lot
Slow at first
does not progress in super power till T5 really..
If no MP can easy die but still dish a lot of dmg
and low evasion..
My Balo friend at 140ish was getting hit for 1s in Shura final mob sooo just the fear tanking power .

And That is Melody Opinion Corner!


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#180   01-08-2010, 02:32 PM
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Eh =o If you Want my little bit of Information UPDATE!
Some of the skill in my Arden PVP Build Pre Ascend have changed but its pretty solid... I actually love to test and prove theorys and retest hence why I am becoming a Neurological chemist which requires extensive testing but enough about that..

I did do test on all the skill T1-T5 Than I rested one and went with a "Updated" build from what you see on my guide. And from my personal experience fighting with the best of the best that Billows Server has to offer the best pkers on pvp war/fort Arden will always be no matter what a One shot. If that arden can penetrate some one defense and the Arden is buffed up I have seen already 118+k dmg on Arden I know their destructive one-way wonder . But we are paper we will die afterwards unless you go back into safezone which wont work in Ancient Land soo good luck on that... As for balo if played right that really are almost unbeatable "ALMOST" note that I am saying this when I am an Arden so I am not taking favorites on my class same with what I picked Modo unless you understand and give other classes credit where they deserve you will never learn what is in your heart of hearts

But Yeah Balo - Definatly killing machine if played right even with defense mod they cannot be taken down with the right usage of MP pots...... the best PKer in Billows for Balo was Yuri we did extensive testing and she did her own testing and even ask everyone to try to one shot her NO ONE! Has yet been able to one shot her ........ because of her ability to convert dmg to both HP and MP. now drain her MP and balo still will be able to tank quite a bit in defense mode but at this time its an Arden that will and can one shot them easy.

Arden-
Highest DMG - Difference Compare to Lupin one hit crit wonder
Highest DPS in the game
Fastest Runner
The Best at PVE Leveling
Money Maker
Con -
Low HP even after ascend max ive seen in chinese server was 49k HP Arden. and a 87k one
Charging Time for Skill if you want to one shot can get you killed
Plants unable to move
Can easy be one shotted

Balo -
Ability to Defense and Attack change - Having 3rd Highest attack or Highest defense
High crit and crit rate
High DMG
Skill that make it extremely tank shield
skill that make it a super fighter
Con -
MP Usage can cost a lot
Slow at first
does not progress in super power till T5 really..
If no MP can easy die but still dish a lot of dmg
and low evasion..
My Balo friend at 140ish was getting hit for 1s in Shura final mob sooo just the fear tanking power .

And That is Melody Opinion Corner!
where do you guys get all this high balo dmg crap from ... iam sorry but what ive seen so far was just plain support dps at max...

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